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“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?” ~ George Berkeley

Fundamental to contemporary Quantum Theory is the notion that there is no phenomenon until it is observed. This effect is known as the ‘Observer Effect’.

The implications of the ‘Observer Effect’ are profound because, if true, it means that before anything can manifest in the physical universe it must first be observed. Presumably observation cannot occur without the pre-existence of some sort of consciousness to do the observing. The Observer Effect clearly implies that the physical Universe is the direct result of ‘consciousness’.

This notion has a striking resemblance to perennial esoteric theory which asserts that all phenomena are the result of the consciousness of a single overlighting Creative Principle or the Mind of God.

There is a delicious irony in all this. Contemporary Western scientific theory postulates that human consciousness is solely a result of the workings of a physical brain, yet if the observer effect is correct, the physical matter comprising a brain cannot come into existence until it is the subject of observation by some pre-existing consciousness.

7 Responses

  1. Ron…Thanks for your thoughtful response…you’ll have to excuse me for my lack of background in Hindu traditions which at times makes it difficult for me to fully understand some of your communications…I didn’t know what was a sutra until you explained it to me early in our contacts…I didn’t realize your first comment on this blog was a sutra but took it as a standard comment and so responded like wise.

    As you probably realize my orientation is largely from Western psychology which expresses itself in logical explanations…however at times offer astute insights which I especially appreciate and its source is intuition.


  2. Sid, after an 18 year delay, I am just starting to write and publish my spiritual memoirs on as instructed in 1992 by my then 114 year old Hindu guru.

    Though they helped me open to intuitive insights from which my sutras were written, I don’t think such spiritual experiences are necessary for us to access intuition – just a still mind.

    Logic has its limits. Here is are apt Einstein quotes:

    “There is no logical way
    to the discovery of elemental laws.
    There is only the way of intuition,
    which is helped by a feeling
    for the order lying behind the appearance.”

    “The intuitive mind is a sacred gift
    and the rational mind is a faithful servant.
    We have created a society
    that honors the servant
    and has forgotten the gift.”

    ~ Albert Einstein

  3. Ron…I agree my statement is intellectual and lacking in direct perceptual awareness…the key is in such awareness…I understand your intuitive sutras but would be interested in knowing about your concrete experiences with feelings of oneness…Sid

  4. Sid,
    Logically your comments are correct. But my sutras aren’t logical, just intuitive.

  5. Ron,

    Following your comment,there is no observer or observed,,,there is only observation… and there is no creator or created but only creation.

    There are no objects (nouns) but only verbs…objectless meditation aims at this awareness.


  6. All concepts in consciousness are Consciousness.
    But for name – subject and object are same.

    Phenomenal “reality” is congealed consciousness.

    Brains do not create consciousness;
    consciousness creates brains.

  7. Hi, Mr Sid
    to answer the question at the beginning, no. sound happens in the brain. I have just posted a post trying to explain what’s happening. basically, the entire discussion on quantum reality is BS.

    you must ask the proper question if you expect a reasonable answer and the proper question is not being asked. The Aristotlean brain fart prevents science from asking the right question.

    FRUSTRATION seeps in. This is really simple Mr Sid.


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